Inequality, patronage networks, revolving doors, military business or the honorary king scandal are some of the current issues that the journalist Jesus Sintora (Agreda, 1977)addresses in his latest book. They don’t want you to knowpublished last March, attempts to answer a range of questions posed by the author, from how it’s possible that some things don’t change to why people choose to look the other way or eliminate the herald before telling what’s going on.
Those relations between those in power and those in power that happened and is happening in those shadow points, when touched, many stand on guard, these are questions from which Cintora prefers not to tiptoe, naming names and establishing relationships; talk about what is not talked about or what is little talked about, so that in this way the reader “will receive the message, read it and learn, and not so that he eliminates the messenger.”
The journalist presented his book this Wednesday in Toledo, at the Library of Castilla-La Mancha, and on the occasion of this appointment from PeriódicoCLM, we interviewed him.
QUESTION: You titled your book “They Don’t Want You to Know It,” but in fact much of the evidence you’ve collected is public (information published in the media, statements in court, police reports…). They don’t want us to know or we don’t want to know?
RESPONSE: They don’t want you to know that this is a book that has research, it has its own opinions, it connects events and, above all, it has the courage to tell what’s going on. For the powerful who play ignorance or want people to be distracted, this book is bad news. For those who want to know who is pulling the strings and why they intend to continue doing so, I think the book is highly recommended.
Question: Reading your book, everything seems to be part of a big network, a network created for the few (names are repeated, families are the same, connections…) Isn’t anyone free?
BUT: I don’t believe in any conspiracy. There is an annual meeting of all the mighty of this world, and they decide on an evil and insidious plan. This book is not a movie. This shows that there are sectors that enjoy great privileges and that this perverts democracy. I strongly believe in regeneration, that we must move forward, that there are even generational blockages. I think there is a lot to be improved at the core that drives the state: the monarchy, the judiciary, economic power, politics, the media, or the welfare system. Impunity, inequality, censorship or the deterioration of our health… These are not coincidences.
Question: Something that was facilitated by the conspiracy of the media, media and journalists. What do you think our role should be?
BUT: Journalism is a job that tells what is happening. It’s a perversion not to count when they look the other way or walk on tiptoe. It is more necessary to question the honorary king, who is connected with corruption, about these dark deeds than if he is going to sail that day. I think this example speaks volumes and we have seen it these days.
Q: One of the themes in your book is how a deserving king gets away with everything. How did you take this return? Another performance?
BUT: Of the honorable necessary explanations must be before the court. I don’t care if he gives them in front of the microphone, because other times he gave a speech and lied. You need to explain yourself in court, and ask for forgiveness – while serving the appropriate punishment. The rest is posturing and buzzwords. By the way, for this impunity, he received judicial and political coverage. And there are also social sectors that will continue to applaud him no matter what he does.
Q: There are many cases of corruption, exchange of favors, but they continue to occur, at all levels, and no response. Do you think we settled in indifference? What price can it have for democracy?
BUT: I honestly don’t like expressions like “at all levels” or “no one is spared” because I don’t want to generalize. Enough cases of corruption or impunity; that we have seen too much, so much so that the society does not pass, does not throw in the towel or does not believe that there is nothing to do. Progress is achieved by force, with active, demanding people who do not give up. The bad guys, of course, will always benefit from the distraction of the good guys. That is why I believe so strongly that education is the fundamental pillar of democracy. And we have a long way to go there.
Q: In your book, you point out that in addition to making promises, you must act. However, even the new parties that claimed to have come to revive politics and institutions failed to change with the dynamics established, as can be seen from his book, since the Franco regime. What do you think needs to happen for something to change?
BUT: Ha ha ha. It’s about taking action in the song Social Security, I’m not calling for an uprising or anything like that. As a journalist, I just wrote a book in which I try to be a witness of my time. By the way, I say that I believe more in the politics of facts than in the politics of speech. Politicians should be analyzed more on the basis of their leadership than on the basis of everyday statements. People live by what they do, not by what they say. Something in new and old games has improved, but something has remained the same or worse. It’s in the book. There is no desire to marry anyone, but to expose what is happening. With every.
Q: At some point in your history, you also said that despite everything you saw, “Spain kept on swallowing.” Are we still swallowing today?
BUT: I just made mashed zucchini and carrots and ate it with spoons. I recommend eating vegetables. Well, in some aspects Spain swallows and in others it doesn’t. Obviously, if an honorary king who has money outside of Spain comes back to do some Rogue rides and laughs in your face, it’s because he has a clientele that swallows. Or if the president of an electric power company calls customers fools who he continues to earn about 40,000 euros a day, well, there are users who allow it and continue to pay their bills … And there are several of them.
Q: It starts They don’t want you to know it in their city of Soria, remembering how we were then, how they lived and what was the perception of what was going on around them. Today, after more than 40 years of democracy, there have been many achievements, including in access to information and the possibility of opposition, the formation of one’s own opinion. However, according to him, this “football” of politics continues to prevail, always defending its own colors. Don’t we have a cure?
BUT: In the book, I say that those who are not able to see which party they voted for are doing wrong. I compare this to some football fans, because even when they watch the replay, they still don’t see the obvious. This fanaticism blinds us, prevents us from moving forward. Some say it rains when they piss on them because their political party does it. Well, here they are. In order for society to move forward, it is important to be critical, constructive, not timid, and also to see your mistakes and common ground with others.
Q: On the other hand, you also point out that “it can hardly be built if it is built on deceitful foundations” without condemning the Franco regime and without reaching a consensus on reparations for the victims. Do you think it is possible for Spain to settle this score with the past?
BUT: In a democratic society, it would be normal for the parties to agree in one day to condemn the coup d’etat that led to civil war and the decades of dictatorship that followed, with thousands killed, expelled and tortured. I don’t know if this will ever happen. I know that now there are still those who still live very well from the heritage of Francoism, and there are still victims who put up with it or even have relatives in the ditches.
Q: Castile-La Mancha also has its place in this book, from where the first box broke to the former regional president’s dealings with corruption and espionage; as well as the birthplace of other characters who are also mentioned in these contexts, such as Sanz Roldan or Agustín Conde, or the place where some businessmen have placed their funds. Has anyone left out of history?
BUT: For someone from Castile-La Mancha, They don’t want you to know that this is very interesting because of the connections between banks, construction companies, energy companies, politicians, spies, para-police apparatus… Nothing is missing. And this is reality, not science fiction. Luckily, like everywhere I go, there are honest people and a lot of work to help this community move forward. It also has a natural environment, a culture and a highly recommended environment. I often come here because I also have good friends.
Q: The book ends by closing the circle, returning to the city in Soria where he grew up and decided he wanted to become a journalist, with a question from his grandfather Vidal: “What kind of life do you lead?” What kind of life does Jesus Sintora lead? Do you have that positive response that bodes well for your readers?
BUT: I’m healthy and that’s the most important thing. This is not a topic. Of the work that is most visible to the public, I am happy to be in Toledo to sign books and, above all, for people to ask questions at an event in the Alcazar. I really like that the audience raises their hands and asks questions, then takes pictures and all that. There were shows that were taken away from us, but they had a good audience, although they don’t want you to know about it. This is another anomaly, but as long as there is life, there is hope and a desire to move forward.
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