At the third Central Asian conference of the Valdai Discussion Club in Tomsk, Deputy Foreign Minister Mikhail Galuzin did not rule out that several Central Asian countries may join the sanctions against Russia. Photo: Press Service of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of the Russian Federation / TASS
At the third Central Asian conference of the Valdai Discussion Club in Tomsk, Deputy Foreign Minister Mikhail Galuzin did not rule out that several Central Asian countries may join the sanctions against Russia.
Because? Because they are not willing to take risks. At the same time, the deputy minister said: the artificial destruction of ties with Russia may result in more severe damage than the costs of secondary sanctions.
At Radio Komsomolskaya Pravda, we discussed this with Andrey Bystritsky, Professor of HSE, Head of the Board of the Foundation for the Development and Support of the Valdai International Discussion Club.
OUT OF CONTEXT
– Is Galuzin’s statement taken out of context?
– It was about something else. That the situation is not improving for everyone. And Western states are taking steps to train everyone in their ranks. And the Central Asian countries are under unprecedented pressure.
– Are they obliged to join the sanctions?
– All countries have to act intelligently. Fight for your interests, be flexible. But the question is that, how to join the front to the sanctions, does not exist. Both the fact of the visit of the leaders of the CIS countries to Moscow on May 9, and the fact of the participation of experts from the Central Asian countries in the same Valdai Conference are evidence that relations between Russia and Central Asia are developing.
– What happened after the speech of Deputy Minister Galuzin?
– Broadly outlined the prospects of relations between Russia and the countries of Central Asia. An open discussion followed. There was a clear position from experts that the Central Asian countries are interested in developing relations with Russia. They are looking for equality. Formulas for confident success in these relationships. There can be no talk of any frontal adherence to Western sanctions. It was about overcoming the pressure, about shaping the modern world.
– But the pressure is unlikely to decrease?
– It will not weaken until everyone realizes that a compromise must be sought. What was discussed there, where Galuzin spoke? The fact that the Western world continues to impose his model. He is manager. There is a plan. But the position of other countries, such as Russia, China, to some extent India, is different, we are striving for something more.
– So that?
– So that the new world order is the result of our cooperation and agreement. No one will impose any model on anyone. It is important that each country can settle more or less comfortably in the new world order.